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I'm not sure why you say "are nowhere to be found around here" - perhaps you mean Brick & Mortar stores? Both these Bionicle sets are available from the Norwegian shop.lego.com site:
The closest I could find is a forum thread where a member called "slow 2.0" writes that (s)he has two of these and might be willing to sell one of them. The catch is the thread is from 2010 and the user hasn't been active in the forum since 2014.
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