# Which is faster: M motor or XL motor?

I understand that the M motor has an adequate amount of speed, and the XL motor is best known for its torque. But is the XL motor really faster than the M motor? Or is it the other way around? I am asking this question because I recently saw the L motor, and one reviewer said "It has the speed of the M motor but the torque of an XL motor." I am assuming this means that the M motor is faster...?

XL (8882):

It delivers a maximum torque of 90,4 mNm (600 mA). Without load its rotation speed is around 220 rotations per minute.

It delivers a maximum torque of 45,4 mNm (450 mA). Without load its rotation speed is around 380 rotations per minute.

It delivers a maximum torque of 40 mNm (300 mA). Without load its rotation speed is around 380 rotations per minute.

• Well, I take it you are telling me that the M motor is faster. Now that I think about it, the M motor isn't the fastest motor that LEGO has made. The 9v 2838 motor is by far, much, much faster. philohome.com/motors/motorcomp.htm – Taylor Garrett Nov 15 '14 at 2:22
• @TaylorGarrett L and M motors have the same unloaded rotation speed (380rpm) which is faster than the XL (220rpm), however they both have lower torque, which means that they will stall under lower loads than the XL. – Zhaph - Ben Duguid Nov 15 '14 at 23:10

Theoretically, in terms of power (speed • torque), the XL Motor is faster than the L Motor and M Motor. The reason being, you can gear up the XL Motor 2:1 and have the following output: running torque of ~7 N.cm & rotational speed of ~290 RPM. However, a small amount of these measures will be lost due to friction and decreased efficiency (by transferring drive through gears). Regardless, comparing these measures to the normal output of the M Motor — running torque of ~3.63 N.cm & rotational speed of ~275 RPM; and the L Motor: running torque of ~6.4 N.cm & rotational speed of ~272 RPM — and we have a clear winner, as far as running torque performance goes. Also, it is worth mentioning that the XL Motor has significantly higher efficiency than both the L Motor or the M Motor.

RPM measurements listed here are the loaded characteristics, not no-load. This is why the RPM numbers listed here are lower than what others have said.

Torque and speed measurements are according to http://www.philohome.com/motors/motorcomp.htm

It really depends on what you're going to be using it for. I'm in the middle of motorizing the fancy branded Lego Porsche and I was gonna use a couple of L Motors to drive the wheels and a servo to handle the steering, but after some research I found that because of all the gears going through the gear selection and drive-train, a powerful amount of torque is required and as Damon very correctly stated, the XL Motors are much more efficient in terms of performance. You might not be getting the same speed but you'll end up regretting buying the L motors due to their lack in torque. To solve this issue with my Porsche I just used a BuWizz controller instead of the old IR setup for more speed, flexibility and less weight as I don't need a receiver.